18.9.2014
Nashville Predators 1 , Tampa Bay Lightning 3
Shots: 13 - 38
PP: 0 of 2 (3 shots), Passing:62/75=82 %, Challenges:34/47=70 %
PP: 0 of 0 (0 shots), Passing:68/85=80 %, Challenges:49/58=83 %
Attendance: 1326 of 17298 (Gaylord Center)
Ticket income: 58874 Match televised: No
BOXSCORE OF THE GAME
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no scoring
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27:56 0-1
Brenden Morrow [2] (Brett Connolly, Andrei Vasilevski)
30:21 1-1
Curtis Valk [1] (Austin Watson)
32:17 1-2
Stephen Weiss [1] (Brenden Morrow, Brett Connolly)
37:53 1-3
Tom Pyatt [1] (James Sheppard, Alexander Killorn)
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no scoring
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Penalty summary:
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01:49
Simon Gagné (2 min for hooking)
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41:22
David Schlemko (2 min for hooking)
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Nashville Predators scoring.
( G A Sh Hi Ga Ta PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
L Taylor Beck 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 -1 6.00 5
R Danny Kristo 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 0 20.40 6
R Filip Forsberg 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 21.00 7
R Patric Hörnqvist 0 0 3 0 3 0 0 -1 17.10 6
C Brendan Leipsic 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1 5.00 4
C Nick Bjugstad 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 17.30 5
C Curtis Valk 1 0 2 0 2 0 0 0 20.20 7
C Colin Wilson 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 -1 17.10 5
R Colton Sissons 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 -1 5.00 5
C Michael Dal Colle 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15.30 6
L Austin Watson 0 1 2 0 1 0 0 0 17.30 6
L Benoit Pouliot 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 -1 17.10 5
D Scott Valentine 0 0 0 2 0 3 0 0 15.40 7
D Brandon Prophet 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 18.50 7
D Roman Josi 0 0 1 2 1 1 0 -2 25.30 5
D Mattias Ekholm 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 16.20 5
D Kevin Klein 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18.20 5
D Justin Faulk 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 -2 25.20 7
(GA, A, Sv , PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
G Chet Pickard 3 0 35 0 0 60.00 9
G Pekka Rinne 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0
Tampa Bay Lightning scoring.
( G A Sh Hi Ga Ta PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
R Alexander Killorn 0 1 2 1 0 1 0 1 11.00 7
R Brenden Morrow 1 1 4 1 0 2 0 2 16.00 9
R Brett Connolly 0 2 4 2 1 1 0 0 20.00 8
R Martin St. Louis 0 0 2 2 1 0 0 -1 17.30 6
C Tom Pyatt 1 0 2 1 0 1 0 1 6.30 6
C Stephen Weiss 1 0 6 0 1 0 0 2 16.00 8
C Valtteri Filppula 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 19.10 7
C Steven Stamkos 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 -1 13.50 6
L James Sheppard 0 1 2 2 1 2 0 1 6.30 6
L Michael Ryder 0 0 2 0 2 3 0 2 16.00 7
L Simon Gagné 0 0 4 1 1 0 2 0 19.10 7
L Jonathan Drouin 0 0 4 1 0 0 0 -1 13.50 7
D Eric Brewer 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 16.20 6
D David Schlemko 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 22.40 7
D Mark Barberio 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 21.00 6
D Zach Trotman 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 2 17.20 5
D Alec Martinez 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 19.30 7
D Victor Hedman 0 0 2 1 1 1 0 0 23.10 7
(GA, A, Sv , PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
G Andrei Vasilevski 1 1 12 0 0 60.00 8
G Ben Bishop 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0
Three stars of the game:
1st star: Brenden Morrow
: Brett Connolly
: Tom Pyatt
Notes for Nashville Predators:
Notes for Tampa Bay Lightning:
Other notes:
18.9.2014
Chicago Blackhawks 2 , Columbus Blue Jackets 5
Shots: 25 - 26
PP: 0 of 0 (0 shots), Passing:58/73=79 %, Challenges:38/47=79 %
PP: 0 of 4 (5 shots), Passing:71/83=85 %, Challenges:37/49=74 %
Attendance: 12300 of 20500 (United Center)
Ticket income: 560880 Match televised: No
BOXSCORE OF THE GAME
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11:06 0-1
Nikita Nikitin [1] (Justin Williams, Brandon Dubinsky)
18:35 1-1
Adam Erne [2] (Brandon Saad, Jeremy Morin)
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32:17 1-2
Marian Gaborik [2] (Joe Pavelski)
34:47 1-3
Justin Williams [2] (Ryan Johansen, Brandon Dubinsky)
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45:32 1-4
Justin Williams [3] (Brandon Dubinsky, David Krejci)
46:04 2-4
Phillip Danault [1] (Anthony Camara, Marcus Kruger)
57:05 2-5
Joe Pavelski [2] (Marian Gaborik, Blake Comeau)
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Penalty summary:
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23:18
Eric Staal (2 min for high-sticking)
28:13
Nazem Kadri (2 min for tripping)
29:59
Slava Voynov (2 min for high-sticking)
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48:13
Slava Voynov (2 min for hooking)
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Chicago Blackhawks scoring.
( G A Sh Hi Ga Ta PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
R Kyle Beach 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9.00 6
L Phillip Danault 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 14.40 8
R Brandon Saad 0 1 2 1 1 0 0 -1 12.50 6
R Jeremy Morin 0 1 2 0 2 0 0 -1 14.10 7
C Brandon Pirri 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 9.00 6
C Marcus Kruger 0 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 17.00 7
C Patrice Bergeron 0 0 3 0 1 0 0 -1 16.50 7
C Jonathan Toews 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 -2 19.30 6
L Nazem Kadri 0 0 3 3 2 1 2 0 9.00 7
L Anthony Camara 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 12.40 7
L Adam Erne 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 -1 15.00 7
L Eric Staal 0 0 2 1 1 0 2 -2 19.30 6
D Slava Voynov 0 0 0 1 0 2 4 0 18.30 6
D Dylan Olsen 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 19.00 6
D Brent Seabrook 0 0 2 5 0 1 0 -3 28.40 8
D Johnny Oduya 0 0 0 3 0 3 0 0 15.00 7
D Robyn Regehr 0 0 1 1 2 0 0 -1 17.50 6
D Nick Leddy 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 -1 23.30 7
(GA, A, Sv , PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
G Igor Shestyorkin 5 0 21 0 0 60.00 4
G Antti Raanta 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0
Columbus Blue Jackets scoring.
( G A Sh Hi Ga Ta PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
R Steve Bernier 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7.50 6
R Kyle Brodziak 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 -1 13.20 6
R Ryan Johansen 0 1 4 5 1 0 0 2 18.30 8
R Joe Pavelski 1 1 2 2 0 1 0 2 20.20 9
C Mark Letestu 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 7.50 5
C Boone Jenner 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 -1 13.20 6
C Brandon Dubinsky 0 3 3 1 1 0 0 2 20.10 8
C David Krejci 0 1 4 1 0 0 0 2 20.20 8
L Blake Comeau 0 1 0 0 2 0 0 0 7.50 6
L Artem Anisimov 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 -1 13.20 6
L Justin Williams 2 1 5 0 1 0 0 2 18.30 9
L Marian Gaborik 1 1 6 0 0 0 0 2 20.20 9
D Tim Erixon 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 -1 13.50 7
D Nikita Nikitin 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 19.10 7
D James Wisniewski 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 2 26.00 8
D David Savard 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 -1 15.50 6
D Ryan Murray 0 0 0 3 1 0 0 2 16.10 7
D Jack Johnson 0 0 0 2 1 2 0 2 27.20 7
(GA, A, Sv , PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
G Sergei Bobrovsky 2 0 23 0 0 60.00 8
G Anton Forsberg 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0
Three stars of the game:
1st star: Justin Williams
: Joe Pavelski
: Brandon Dubinsky
Notes for Chicago Blackhawks:
-Eric Staal had his 4 game point streak snapped.
-Brent Seabrook had his 4 game point streak snapped.
Notes for Columbus Blue Jackets:
Other notes:
18.9.2014
St. Louis Blues 3 , Winnipeg Jets 1
Shots: 24 - 24
PP: 0 of 0 (0 shots), Passing:70/85=82 %, Challenges:35/54=63 %
WIN PP: 0 of 1 (2 shots), Passing:64/78=82 %, Challenges:33/49=66 %
Attendance: 9630 of 19260 (Kiel Center)
Ticket income: 403497 Match televised: No
BOXSCORE OF THE GAME
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no scoring
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25:54 1-0
Vladimir Tarasenko [4] (Derek Roy, Dwight King)
28:01 2-0
Daniel Sedin [2] (Vladimir Sobotka)
32:29 2-1 WIN Andrew Ladd [2] (Zach Bogosian, Bryan Little)
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40:34 3-1
Alex Pietrangelo [1] (Dan Hamhuis, T.J. Oshie)
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Penalty summary:
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13:54
Erik Gustafsson (2 min for hooking)
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St. Louis Blues scoring.
( G A Sh Hi Ga Ta PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
R Evgeny Grachev 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 7.00 5
R Trevor Lewis 0 0 0 2 1 3 0 0 16.00 7
R Vladimir Tarasenko 1 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 16.30 8
R T.J. Oshie 0 1 3 2 0 0 0 2 20.30 8
C Cody Hodgson 0 0 0 1 2 1 0 0 7.00 5
C Josh Bailey 0 0 1 0 2 1 0 0 15.00 6
C Derek Roy 0 1 4 0 1 0 0 0 15.20 7
C Patrik Berglund 0 0 5 1 0 0 0 2 21.20 8
L Vladimir Sobotka 0 1 1 2 1 2 0 0 7.00 7
L Max Pacioretty 0 0 1 1 2 2 0 0 15.00 6
L Dwight King 0 1 2 1 3 1 0 0 16.40 6
L Daniel Sedin 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 20.20 9
D Erik Gustafsson 0 0 0 1 1 1 2 0 17.50 6
D Kevin Shattenkirk 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 15.40 6
D Dan Hamhuis 0 1 1 3 2 2 0 2 24.10 8
D Roman Polak 0 0 1 3 1 3 0 0 19.00 7
D Andrei Markov 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 18.00 6
D Alex Pietrangelo 1 0 1 1 1 0 0 2 25.20 8
(GA, A, Sv , PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
G Brian Elliott 1 0 23 0 0 60.00 9
G Jake Allen 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0
Winnipeg Jets scoring.
( G A Sh Hi Ga Ta PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
R Eric O'Dell 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 6.20 6
R Carter Ashton 0 0 2 3 0 6 0 0 14.40 8
R Sam Gagner 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 -1 16.40 6
R Dustin Byfuglien 0 0 2 2 1 0 0 -1 19.00 7
C Darren Helm 0 0 1 2 2 2 0 0 6.20 5
C Michael Frolik 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 16.00 7
C Mark Scheifele 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 -2 20.20 5
C Bryan Little 0 1 3 4 1 0 0 0 19.40 7
L Alexander Burmistrov 0 0 2 1 1 1 0 0 6.20 6
L Olli Jokinen 0 0 2 3 0 4 0 0 17.30 7
L Blake Wheeler 0 0 6 0 2 0 0 -1 17.40 8
L Andrew Ladd 1 0 3 3 1 1 0 -1 19.30 9
D Paul Postma 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 15.50 5
D Jarred Tinordi 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1 20.30 5
D Zach Bogosian 0 1 0 6 2 2 0 -1 26.00 8
D Mark Stuart 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 16.30 6
D Jamie McBain 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 -1 16.40 7
D Drew Doughty 0 0 1 3 3 1 0 -1 24.30 7
(GA, A, Sv , PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
G Ondrej Pavelec 3 0 21 0 0 60.00 6
G Michael Hutchinson 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0
Three stars of the game:
1st star: Vladimir Tarasenko
: T.J. Oshie
: Daniel Sedin
Notes for St. Louis Blues:
Notes for Winnipeg Jets:
Other notes:
18.9.2014
Washington Capitals 4 , Carolina Hurricanes 5
Shots: 30 - 25
PP: 1 of 2 (2 shots), Passing:59/68=86 %, Challenges:33/45=71 %
PP: 0 of 1 (1 shots), Passing:81/94=86 %, Challenges:50/66=74 %
Attendance: 6250 of 19740 (MCI Center)
Ticket income: 303125 Match televised: No
BOXSCORE OF THE GAME
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06:35 0-1
Pierre-Marc Bouchard [2] (Tuomo Ruutu)
12:59 0-2
Zach Parisé [3] (Shea Weber, Mike Richards)
16:54 0-3
Zach Parisé [4] (Ryan Murphy, Tim Gleason)
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33:55 1-3
Evgeni Kuznetsov [4] (Alexander Ovechkin, Joel Ward)
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46:18 2-3
Alexander Ovechkin [1] (Mike Green, Tomas Kundratek)
46:57 3-3
Nicklas Bäckström [2] (Evgeni Kuznetsov, Alexander Ovechkin)
48:26 4-3
Martin Erat [2] (Mikhail Grabovski, Evgeni Kuznetsov)PP
52:07 4-4
Alexander Radulov [2] (Alexander Semin, Joni Pitkänen)
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60:48 4-5
Alexander Semin [2] (Alexander Radulov, Olli Määttä)
Penalty summary:
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03:58
John Carlson (2 min for slashing)
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41:16
Zach Boychuk (2 min for slashing)
47:24
Zach Boychuk (2 min for hooking)
49:56
Elias Lindholm (2 min for roughing)
49:56
Mike Green (2 min for roughing)
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Washington Capitals scoring.
( G A Sh Hi Ga Ta PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
R Joel Ward 0 1 1 1 2 1 0 -2 10.00 6
R Troy Brouwer 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 13.50 6
R Martin Erat 1 0 3 1 1 1 0 -1 16.20 7
R Alexander Ovechkin 1 2 4 0 0 0 0 1 20.40 8
C Brooks Laich 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 -2 8.40 5
C Mikhail Grabovski 0 1 0 1 0 2 0 -1 15.40 7
C Marcus Johansson 0 0 3 2 2 0 0 0 18.00 7
C Nicklas Bäckström 1 0 2 1 0 0 0 1 20.40 7
L Jason Chimera 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 -2 8.40 6
R Tom Wilson 0 0 0 2 1 3 0 0 13.10 7
L André Burakovsky 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 -1 15.20 6
L Evgeni Kuznetsov 1 2 4 2 1 0 0 1 19.30 10
D Dmitry Orlov 0 0 3 1 0 2 0 0 14.40 7
D Madison Bowey 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 -2 19.30 6
D John Carlson 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 0 26.00 6
D Tomas Kundratek 0 1 1 4 1 4 0 0 17.10 8
D Karl Alzner 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 -3 20.50 7
D Mike Green 0 1 2 4 1 1 2 1 23.30 8
(GA, A, Sv , PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
G Michal Neuvirth 5 0 20 0 0 60.50 4
G Braden Holtby 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0
Carolina Hurricanes scoring.
( G A Sh Hi Ga Ta PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
L Zach Boychuk 0 0 0 0 1 0 4 0 5.40 5
R Tuomo Ruutu 0 1 1 4 0 4 0 0 16.50 8
R Alexander Semin 1 1 4 3 4 0 0 1 19.00 9
R Elias Lindholm 0 0 2 0 1 0 2 1 17.00 7
C Matt Hendricks 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 0 6.10 6
C Riley Nash 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 0 15.40 7
L Victor Rask 0 0 3 0 2 0 0 1 18.20 7
C Mike Richards 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 1 20.40 7
L Brendan Woods 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 6.10 5
L Pierre-Marc Bouchard 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 16.00 6
L Alexander Radulov 1 1 2 4 0 0 0 1 19.20 9
L Zach Parisé 2 0 5 1 1 0 0 1 18.30 8
D Steve Santini 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 15.00 6
D Joni Pitkänen 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 18.30 6
D Shea Weber 0 1 1 5 1 3 0 1 26.40 9
D Tim Gleason 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 17.30 7
D Olli Määttä 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 18.40 6
D Ryan Murphy 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 25.20 7
(GA, A, Sv , PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
G Cam Ward 4 0 26 0 0 60.50 6
G Mike Murphy 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0
Three stars of the game:
1st star: Zach Parisé
: Alexander Semin
: Alexander Ovechkin
Notes for Washington Capitals:
Notes for Carolina Hurricanes:
Other notes:
18.9.2014
Florida Panthers 5 , Detroit Red Wings 1
Shots: 26 - 19
PP: 1 of 1 (1 shots), Passing:76/88=86 %, Challenges:28/44=62 %
PP: 1 of 1 (2 shots), Passing:68/81=83 %, Challenges:23/43=52 %
Attendance: 8952 of 19252 (National Car Rental Center)
Ticket income: 422534 Match televised: No
BOXSCORE OF THE GAME
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08:58 1-0
Kris Versteeg [1] (Logan Shaw, Scott Laughton)
19:52 2-0
Brayden Schenn [2] (Kris Versteeg, Jonathan Huberdeau)PP
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29:14 2-1
Niklas Kronwall [1] (Brian Lashoff, Pavel Datsyuk)PP
34:41 3-1
Scott Laughton [1] (Quinton Howden, Clark Bishop)
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48:21 4-1
Aleksander Barkov [2] (Guillaume Latendresse)
58:45 5-1
Logan Shaw [1] (Scott Laughton, Ludvig Rensfeldt)
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Penalty summary:
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18:48
Duncan Siemens (2 min for tripping)
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28:52
Tomas Fleischmann (2 min for holding the stick)
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Florida Panthers scoring.
( G A Sh Hi Ga Ta PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
R Logan Shaw 1 1 1 0 2 0 0 2 8.40 7
R Jarome Iginla 0 0 1 2 1 4 0 0 16.30 6
R Tomas Fleischmann 0 0 4 1 2 0 2 1 17.10 7
R Kris Versteeg 1 1 3 1 1 0 0 1 17.20 8
C Quinton Howden 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 2 8.00 7
C Clark Bishop 0 1 1 0 2 0 0 0 15.40 6
C Aleksander Barkov 1 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 19.00 8
C Jonathan Huberdeau 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 1 17.40 7
L Scott Laughton 1 2 1 0 2 0 0 2 7.40 8
L Ludvig Rensfeldt 0 1 2 0 2 0 0 0 17.30 6
L Guillaume Latendresse 0 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 17.10 7
L Brayden Schenn 1 0 5 0 1 0 0 1 17.20 7
D Colby Robak 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 17.00 6
D Luke Schenn 0 0 0 5 1 5 0 2 19.10 8
D Brian Campbell 0 0 2 4 0 1 0 2 23.50 8
D Mike Weaver 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 16.00 6
D Michael Matheson 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 1 18.30 7
D Erik Gudbranson 0 0 0 6 1 6 0 3 25.30 9
(GA, A, Sv , PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
G Jacob Markstrom 1 0 18 0 0 60.00 9
G Scott Clemmensen 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0
Detroit Red Wings scoring.
( G A Sh Hi Ga Ta PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
R Landon Ferraro 0 0 2 2 2 2 0 0 10.00 5
R Johan Franzen 0 0 2 1 1 1 0 0 12.50 7
R Josh Ho-Sang 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 -2 16.30 6
R Anthony Mantha 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 -2 19.30 6
C Derek Stepan 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 10.00 5
L Riley Sheahan 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 12.50 6
C Justin Abdelkader 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 -2 17.40 6
C Pavel Datsyuk 0 1 2 0 1 0 0 -2 19.30 7
L Cory Emmerton 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 10.00 4
L Tomas Jurco 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 12.50 6
C Joakim Andersson 0 0 2 0 4 0 0 -2 17.40 5
L Henrik Zetterberg 0 0 3 1 3 0 0 -2 19.30 7
D Danny Dekeyser 0 0 0 1 1 2 0 0 14.50 6
D Duncan Siemens 0 0 0 5 0 1 2 -2 19.50 7
D Brian Lashoff 0 1 1 3 0 3 0 -2 25.20 7
D Matt Niskanen 0 0 0 3 1 3 0 0 13.40 6
D Jared Spurgeon 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 -2 19.00 5
D Niklas Kronwall 1 0 3 5 1 2 0 -2 27.20 8
(GA, A, Sv , PIM, +/- Icetime Rating)
G Jimmy Howard 5 0 21 0 0 60.00 4
G Petr Mrazek 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0
Three stars of the game:
1st star: Scott Laughton
: Logan Shaw
: Kris Versteeg
Notes for Florida Panthers:
Notes for Detroit Red Wings:
Other notes: