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Larry Vétéran
Messages : 17554 Date d'inscription : 08/07/2017 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: BUF / CAR Dim 31 Oct 2021 - 21:29 | |
| Aweil contre le gros Vinny | |
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Vinny Vétéran
Messages : 11662 Date d'inscription : 23/07/2015 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Lun 1 Nov 2021 - 7:38 | |
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Vinny Vétéran
Messages : 11662 Date d'inscription : 23/07/2015 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Lun 15 Nov 2021 - 8:57 | |
| Tu t'es empressé à mettre le résultat de notre récente partie........... | |
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Vinny Vétéran
Messages : 11662 Date d'inscription : 23/07/2015 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Lun 15 Nov 2021 - 8:58 | |
| Buffalo Sabres Carolina Hurricanes 4 5 Team Score Shots PP PP shots Buffalo Sabres 4 31 0/1 0 Carolina Hurricanes 5 23 0/1 0 Attendance Ticket Income Match Televised 19070 / 19070 (KeyBank Center) 867685$ No Dylan Holloway Matthew Tkachuk Cole Perfetti Goals Time Home - Away Team Player Goal # of season Assists Period 1 06:57 0 - 1 Matthew Tkachuk [19] (Cole Perfetti, Nikolaj Ehlers) 11:34 0 - 2 Cole Perfetti [12] (Kaiden Guhle) 18:04 1 - 2 Nicolas Aubé-Kubel [10] (Jacob Trouba, Daniil Misyul) Period 2 29:49 1 - 3 Nikolaj Ehlers [14] (Cole Perfetti, Matthew Tkachuk) 32:08 2 - 3 Dylan Holloway [9] (Daniil Chayka, Owen Power) 34:51 3 - 3 Dylan Holloway [10] (Alexander Holtz, Artem Zub) Period 3 42:39 4 - 3 Dylan Holloway [11] (Artem Zub, Jacob Trouba) 49:02 4 - 4 Eetu Luostarinen [3] (Nikita Zadorov, Oliver Bjorkstrand) Shootouts Carolina Hurricanes win 2-0 Buffalo Sabres - John Tavares, miss; Alexander Nylander, miss; Carolina Hurricanes - Matthew Tkachuk, goal; Noel Gunler, goal; Penalties Time Team Player Reason Period 3 53:59 Nicolas Roy (2 min for tripping) Period 4 64:22 Marcus Davidsson (2 min for tripping) Statistics Buffalo Sabres scoring. Pos. Name Goals Assists Shots Hits Giveaways Takeaways PIM +/- TOI Rating R Nicolas Aubé-Kubel 1 0 2 2 0 1 0 -1 11.20 7 R Vinnie Hinostroza 0 0 2 2 0 1 0 -1 15.50 7 R Alexander Holtz 0 1 1 2 1 0 0 3 18.20 8 R Alexander Nylander 0 0 4 1 0 0 0 -1 19.00 7 C Marcus Davidsson 0 0 0 1 1 0 2 -1 11.20 6 C Matthew Beniers 0 0 0 2 1 4 0 -1 15.50 7 C Ryan O'Reilly 0 0 4 2 1 0 0 3 16.50 9 C John Tavares 0 0 3 1 0 0 0 -1 21.10 7 L Connor Brown 0 0 0 3 0 1 0 -1 11.20 7 L Kevin Hayes 0 0 3 1 0 0 0 -1 15.50 7 L Dylan Holloway 3 0 4 1 0 0 0 3 19.00 10 L John-Jason Peterka 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 -1 19.00 6 D Daniil Misyul 0 1 0 2 1 2 0 -2 16.30 6 D Artem Zub 0 2 0 2 2 0 0 3 21.50 7 D Jacob Trouba 0 2 2 2 3 1 0 -1 26.50 7 D Shakir Mukhamadullin 0 0 1 1 2 2 0 -2 17.30 6 D Daniil Chayka 0 1 2 1 0 0 0 3 19.50 9 D Owen Power 0 1 3 3 1 0 0 -1 27.50 8 Pos. Name Goals Against Assists Saves PIM +/- TOI Rating G Adin Hill 4 0 19 0 0 65.00 5 G Ilya Sorokin 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 Carolina Hurricanes scoring. Pos. Name Goals Assists Shots Hits Giveaways Takeaways PIM +/- TOI Rating R Nicolas Roy 0 0 2 4 0 1 2 0 9.00 6 R Oliver Bjorkstrand 0 1 2 1 1 1 0 1 20.40 9 R Noel Gunler 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 -2 16.40 7 R Matthew Tkachuk 1 1 4 5 2 1 0 1 18.50 9 C Luke Glendening 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 9.00 5 C Eetu Luostarinen 1 0 2 1 1 1 0 1 18.30 6 C Seth Jarvis 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 -2 16.40 6 C Cole Perfetti 1 2 4 0 1 0 0 1 21.00 7 L Austin Watson 0 0 1 2 0 2 0 0 9.00 5 L Steven Lorentz 0 0 0 5 2 4 0 1 18.20 6 L Jonathan Marchessault 0 0 3 2 1 0 0 -2 16.40 7 L Nikolaj Ehlers 1 1 3 1 0 1 0 1 18.50 9 D Nikita Zadorov 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 20.00 6 D Brett Pesce 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 -2 19.20 7 D Alec Regula 0 0 1 3 0 0 0 1 28.10 8 D Alexander Nikishin 0 0 0 1 1 2 0 1 24.00 6 D Ville Heinola 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 -2 19.40 7 D Kaiden Guhle 0 1 2 1 2 0 0 1 19.10 8 Pos. Name Goals Against Assists Saves PIM +/- TOI Rating G Yaroslav Askarov 4 0 27 0 0 65.00 6 G Cam Talbot 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 | |
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Larry Vétéran
Messages : 17554 Date d'inscription : 08/07/2017 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Lun 15 Nov 2021 - 9:16 | |
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Vinny Vétéran
Messages : 11662 Date d'inscription : 23/07/2015 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Mar 16 Nov 2021 - 8:53 | |
| 3 4 Team Score Shots PP PP shots Buffalo Sabres 3 22 0/0 0 Carolina Hurricanes 4 34 1/2 3 Attendance Ticket Income Match Televised 19070 / 19070 (KeyBank Center) 867685$ No Matthew Tkachuk Oliver Bjorkstrand Cole Perfetti Goals Time Home - Away Team Player Goal # of season Assists Period 1 07:21 0 - 1 Seth Jarvis [11] (Noel Gunler, Oliver Bjorkstrand) 11:25 1 - 1 John Tavares [20] (Marcus Davidsson, Connor Brown) Period 2 22:08 1 - 2 Matthew Tkachuk [25] (Cole Perfetti, Eetu Luostarinen) 24:43 2 - 2 John-Jason Peterka [9] (Shakir Mukhamadullin, Daniil Misyul) 28:51 2 - 3 Oliver Bjorkstrand [19] (Brett Pesce, Alec Regula) Period 3 40:43 2 - 4 Cole Perfetti [14] (Nikolaj Ehlers, Matthew Tkachuk) 48:06 3 - 4 Ryan O'Reilly [16] (John Tavares, Dylan Holloway) Penalties Time Team Player Reason Period 1 06:11 Connor Brown (2 min for tripping) Period 2 38:22 Marcus Davidsson (2 min for hooking) Statistics Buffalo Sabres scoring. Pos. Name Goals Assists Shots Hits Giveaways Takeaways PIM +/- TOI Rating R Vinnie Hinostroza 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 -1 11.50 6 R John-Jason Peterka 1 0 3 0 2 0 0 1 13.30 7 R Alexander Nylander 0 0 2 1 2 0 0 0 14.40 6 R Alexander Holtz 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 1 16.30 7 C Marcus Davidsson 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 -1 11.50 7 C Yegor Sharangovich 0 0 0 1 2 1 0 1 13.30 7 C Ryan O'Reilly 1 0 3 1 1 0 0 -1 17.40 8 C John Tavares 1 1 1 2 0 0 0 1 17.00 8 L Connor Brown 0 1 1 3 0 1 2 -1 11.30 8 L Kevin Hayes 0 0 0 1 0 2 0 1 15.00 7 L Matthew Beniers 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 15.00 7 L Dylan Holloway 0 1 3 1 0 0 0 0 18.30 8 D Daniil Misyul 0 1 0 3 0 2 0 1 13.50 7 D Ryan Suter 0 0 0 2 1 0 0 0 17.30 6 D Jacob Trouba 0 0 1 7 0 1 0 -1 27.30 8 D Shakir Mukhamadullin 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 16.40 6 D Daniil Chayka 0 0 1 3 0 0 0 -1 19.30 7 D Owen Power 0 0 3 2 1 0 0 0 25.00 7 Pos. Name Goals Against Assists Saves PIM +/- TOI Rating G Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen 4 0 30 0 0 58.20 7 G Ilya Sorokin 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 Carolina Hurricanes scoring. Pos. Name Goals Assists Shots Hits Giveaways Takeaways PIM +/- TOI Rating R Nicolas Roy 0 0 0 3 0 1 0 0 7.00 6 R Jonathan Marchessault 0 0 2 4 0 2 0 -1 14.50 7 R Oliver Bjorkstrand 1 1 5 3 0 0 0 -1 17.50 9 R Matthew Tkachuk 1 1 3 6 0 0 0 2 20.20 10 C Eetu Luostarinen 0 1 0 3 0 1 0 0 7.00 7 C Vasili Ponomaryov 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 -1 14.50 7 C Seth Jarvis 1 0 3 1 0 0 0 -1 17.50 8 C Cole Perfetti 1 1 4 0 0 0 0 2 20.20 9 L Austin Watson 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 7.00 6 L Steven Lorentz 0 0 3 5 0 2 0 -1 15.40 8 L Noel Gunler 0 1 3 1 2 0 0 -1 17.00 7 L Nikolaj Ehlers 0 1 3 2 1 0 0 2 20.20 8 D Marcus Pettersson 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 -1 15.10 6 D Brett Pesce 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 -1 18.40 6 D Alec Regula 0 1 3 2 2 1 0 2 26.10 9 D Nikita Zadorov 0 0 0 2 0 2 0 -1 15.50 6 D Ville Heinola 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 20.10 6 D Kaiden Guhle 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 1 24.00 7 Pos. Name Goals Against Assists Saves PIM +/- TOI Rating G Yaroslav Askarov 3 0 19 0 0 60.00 6 G Cam Talbot 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 Buffalo Sabres John Tavares scored his 20th goal of the season. Alexander Holtz had his 4 game point streak snapped. Marcus Davidsson finally ended his 11 game point drought. Connor Brown finally ended his 11 game point drought. Daniil Chayka had his 4 game point streak snapped. Carolina Hurricanes Matthew Tkachuk scored his 25th goal of the season. Ville Heinola had his 4 game point streak snapped. Other notes | |
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Vinny Vétéran
Messages : 11662 Date d'inscription : 23/07/2015 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Mer 17 Nov 2021 - 7:20 | |
| commene à etre triste cette rivalité | |
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Vinny Vétéran
Messages : 11662 Date d'inscription : 23/07/2015 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Mer 17 Nov 2021 - 7:21 | |
| Carolina Hurricanes Buffalo Sabres 6 5 Team Score Shots PP PP shots Carolina Hurricanes 6 32 0/0 0 Buffalo Sabres 5 33 0/1 1 Attendance Ticket Income Match Televised 18680 / 18680 (PNC Arena) 889168$ Yes Cole Perfetti Seth Jarvis Vinnie Hinostroza Goals Time Home - Away Team Player Goal # of season Assists Period 1 07:59 0 - 1 Marcus Davidsson [3] (Connor Brown, Vinnie Hinostroza) 11:45 0 - 2 Marcus Davidsson [4] (Connor Brown, Kevin Hayes) Period 2 21:56 0 - 3 Alexander Holtz [6] (John Tavares, Dylan Holloway) 24:25 0 - 4 Vinnie Hinostroza [9] (Alexander Nylander, Kevin Hayes) 29:55 1 - 4 Seth Jarvis [14] (Ville Heinola, Kaiden Guhle) 30:36 2 - 4 Seth Jarvis [15] (Oliver Bjorkstrand, Teuvo Teravainen) Period 3 41:46 3 - 4 Cole Perfetti [19] (Steven Lorentz) 47:49 3 - 5 Vinnie Hinostroza [10] (Connor Brown, Kevin Hayes) 48:11 4 - 5 Cole Perfetti [20] (Nikolaj Ehlers) 49:12 5 - 5 Teuvo Teravainen [2] (Ville Heinola, Kaiden Guhle) Period 4 64:48 6 - 5 Nikolaj Ehlers [24] (Cole Perfetti, Alec Regula) Penalties Time Team Player Reason Period 2 36:48 Steven Lorentz (2 min for cross-checking) Statistics Carolina Hurricanes scoring. Pos. Name Goals Assists Shots Hits Giveaways Takeaways PIM +/- TOI Rating R Nicolas Roy 0 0 2 2 0 2 0 -1 9.50 5 R Noel Gunler 0 0 2 2 1 1 0 0 15.10 7 R Oliver Bjorkstrand 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 18.00 7 R Matthew Tkachuk 0 0 0 6 0 0 0 2 21.50 8 C Steven Lorentz 0 1 0 4 1 2 2 -1 9.50 8 C Vasili Ponomaryov 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 15.10 7 C Seth Jarvis 2 0 5 1 0 0 0 0 18.00 10 C Cole Perfetti 2 1 3 1 1 0 0 2 19.40 9 L Austin Watson 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 -1 9.50 5 L Eetu Luostarinen 0 0 2 0 1 3 0 0 17.20 5 L Teuvo Teravainen 1 1 5 0 3 0 0 0 18.00 8 L Nikolaj Ehlers 1 1 2 2 1 0 0 2 19.40 8 D Marcus Pettersson 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 15.30 6 D Brett Pesce 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 19.20 6 D Alec Regula 0 1 2 3 0 1 0 1 30.00 9 D Nikita Zadorov 0 0 1 2 1 3 0 0 16.00 7 D Ville Heinola 0 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 18.20 7 D Kaiden Guhle 0 2 2 9 1 1 0 1 30.30 10 Pos. Name Goals Against Assists Saves PIM +/- TOI Rating G Yaroslav Askarov 5 0 28 0 0 64.40 5 G Cam Talbot 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 Buffalo Sabres scoring. Pos. Name Goals Assists Shots Hits Giveaways Takeaways PIM +/- TOI Rating R Vinnie Hinostroza 2 1 3 1 3 1 0 4 9.20 7 R Alexander Nylander 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 15.40 8 R John-Jason Peterka 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 -2 17.50 6 R Alexander Holtz 1 0 4 0 0 0 0 -3 22.00 8 C Marcus Davidsson 2 0 3 0 1 0 0 4 9.20 8 C Yegor Sharangovich 0 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 15.40 7 C Ryan O'Reilly 0 0 2 0 3 0 0 -2 17.00 6 C John Tavares 0 1 4 2 0 0 0 -3 22.50 8 L Connor Brown 0 3 0 3 0 0 0 4 9.20 7 L Kevin Hayes 0 3 4 3 2 3 0 0 15.40 8 L Matthew Beniers 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 -2 17.50 6 L Dylan Holloway 0 1 4 1 0 0 0 -3 22.00 7 D Daniil Misyul 0 0 0 3 0 3 0 0 16.20 7 D Ryan Suter 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 -2 17.30 5 D Jacob Trouba 0 0 0 5 0 1 0 1 31.00 9 D Shakir Mukhamadullin 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 17.50 7 D Daniil Chayka 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 -1 18.00 6 D Owen Power 0 0 3 0 0 0 0 0 29.00 7 Pos. Name Goals Against Assists Saves PIM +/- TOI Rating G Adin Hill 6 0 26 0 0 64.40 4 G Ilya Sorokin 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 | |
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Larry Vétéran
Messages : 17554 Date d'inscription : 08/07/2017 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Mer 17 Nov 2021 - 7:37 | |
| J’t’aller chercher 1 point | |
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Vinny Vétéran
Messages : 11662 Date d'inscription : 23/07/2015 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Mar 23 Nov 2021 - 14:25 | |
| 4 0 Team Score Shots PP PP shots Carolina Hurricanes 4 27 2/4 3 Buffalo Sabres 0 30 0/1 0 Attendance Ticket Income Match Televised 18680 / 18680 (PNC Arena) 889168$ No Yaroslav Askarov Oliver Bjorkstrand Cole Perfetti Goals Time Home - Away Team Player Goal # of season Assists Period 1 10:52 1 - 0 Brett Pesce [8] (Kaiden Guhle, Cole Perfetti) 13:17 2 - 0 Oliver Bjorkstrand [30] (Kaiden Guhle, Cole Perfetti) 15:49 3 - 0 Ville Heinola [8] (Noel Gunler, Matthew Tkachuk) Period 2 25:55 4 - 0 Noel Gunler [18] (Brett Pesce, Cole Perfetti) Period 3 Penalties Time Team Player Reason Period 1 10:33 Rutger McGroarty (2 min for hooking) 14:18 Rutger McGroarty (2 min for tripping) 16:08 Tyler Boucher (2 min for hooking) Period 2 37:03 Steven Lorentz (2 min for hooking) 39:21 Matthew Beniers (2 min for elbowing) Statistics Carolina Hurricanes scoring. Pos. Name Goals Assists Shots Hits Giveaways Takeaways PIM +/- TOI Rating R Vasili Ponomaryov 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 4.40 6 R Mackie Samoskevich 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 14.10 7 R Oliver Bjorkstrand 1 0 2 2 0 0 0 2 21.10 9 R Matthew Tkachuk 0 1 3 3 0 0 0 0 20.00 8 C Steven Lorentz 0 0 2 1 1 0 2 0 4.40 6 C Seth Jarvis 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 14.00 6 C Cole Perfetti 0 3 4 2 0 0 0 2 21.20 8 C Sidney Crosby 0 0 3 1 0 0 0 0 20.00 8 L Eetu Luostarinen 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 4.40 6 L Eric Robinson 0 0 2 4 1 3 0 0 14.00 8 L Noel Gunler 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 18.20 8 L Nikolaj Ehlers 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 1 20.40 8 D Marcus Pettersson 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13.50 6 D Brett Pesce 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 16.30 9 D Alec Regula 0 0 0 6 0 2 0 1 27.00 9 D Nikita Zadorov 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 13.30 6 D Ville Heinola 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 24.10 8 D Kaiden Guhle 0 2 1 2 0 0 0 1 25.00 8 Pos. Name Goals Against Assists Saves PIM +/- TOI Rating G Yaroslav Askarov 0 0 30 0 0 60.00 10 G Cam Talbot 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 Buffalo Sabres scoring. Pos. Name Goals Assists Shots Hits Giveaways Takeaways PIM +/- TOI Rating R Luke Glendening 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 8.20 5 R Tyler Boucher 0 0 3 2 0 0 2 0 16.00 7 R Timo Meier 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 -2 13.50 7 R Alexander Holtz 0 0 1 2 1 0 0 0 19.10 7 C Logan Cooley 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 8.20 6 C Ryan O'Reilly 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 13.50 7 C John Tavares 0 0 3 1 0 0 0 -2 17.50 8 C Patrice Bergeron 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 20.00 7 L Alexander Nylander 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 8.20 6 L Rutger McGroarty 0 0 0 3 1 0 4 0 11.40 6 L Dylan Holloway 0 0 2 1 0 0 0 -2 15.30 7 L Matthew Beniers 0 0 2 0 2 0 2 0 20.30 6 D Ryan Johnson 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 12.00 6 D Simon Nemec 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 -2 19.20 7 D Jacob Trouba 0 0 1 4 2 2 0 0 28.40 6 D Shakir Mukhamadullin 0 0 1 2 0 1 0 0 12.00 7 D Daniil Chayka 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 -2 22.20 6 D Owen Power 0 0 4 2 0 1 0 0 25.40 8 Pos. Name Goals Against Assists Saves PIM +/- TOI Rating G Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen 4 0 23 0 0 60.00 5 G Ilya Sorokin 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 | |
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Vinny Vétéran
Messages : 11662 Date d'inscription : 23/07/2015 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Mar 23 Nov 2021 - 14:26 | |
| rendu là, c'es tu encore considéré comme une rivalité ?
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Vinny Vétéran
Messages : 11662 Date d'inscription : 23/07/2015 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Dim 5 Déc 2021 - 10:28 | |
| on reprend ca le cassse ? | Vinny aime ce message |
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Larry Vétéran
Messages : 17554 Date d'inscription : 08/07/2017 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Jeu 23 Déc 2021 - 13:03 | |
| Oui S4 on reprend ça | |
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Vinny Vétéran
Messages : 11662 Date d'inscription : 23/07/2015 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Jeu 23 Déc 2021 - 13:25 | |
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Larry Vétéran
Messages : 17554 Date d'inscription : 08/07/2017 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Sam 1 Jan 2022 - 17:06 | |
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Vinny Vétéran
Messages : 11662 Date d'inscription : 23/07/2015 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Sam 1 Jan 2022 - 17:42 | |
| 16-1 a date ?? Va bin te prendre 4 saisons pour me rattraper | |
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Larry Vétéran
Messages : 17554 Date d'inscription : 08/07/2017 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Sam 1 Jan 2022 - 18:10 | |
| S3 on l’a pas fait faaaaak | |
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Larry Vétéran
Messages : 17554 Date d'inscription : 08/07/2017 Âge : 32 Localisation : Terrebonne
| Sujet: Re: BUF / CAR Ven 21 Jan 2022 - 16:59 | |
| 16/01 4-1 01/02 7-2 25/02 5-4 01/04 5-1 CHOW VINNY | |
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